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All economies are mixed, what determines mode of production is the principle aspect of the economy. In social democracy, the large firms and key industries are still privately owned, with perhaps some little nationalization, and the state is dominated by the wealthy.
Social Democracy is an ideology supporting capitalism, at best it is center-right. Welfare capitalism is still capitalism.
You’re still equating private funding with independence. Further, social democrats are capitalists, by definition they are right wing. There are exceedingly few leftist voices except for small indie media, across the west, and these voices get drowned out by the huge private mass media corporations that are just mouthpieces for wealthy owners.
Dutch media isn’t particularly different from US media. Further, the “every political leaning” really just translates to various flavors of right-wing, from SocDem to fascist. What gets boosted by private investors is what permeates discourse. Private media is no less biased than state media.
Private media is beholden to the wealthiest in society, and often recieves state funding as well. This is true across all western nations, including European nations. The few, minor independent news organizations that go against the grain are overwhelmed by the standard mass media.
Carter and Biden both committed genocide abroad and did very little to help the working class domestically.
Marxists want a collectivized and planned economy directed in a cooperative manner to meet the needs of all of society. Fascists want extreme striation, often appealing to ethnic supremacy and “might makes right” mentality, all as justification for bourgeois rule. These are not the same in any way.
As for “authoritarianism,” all states are authoritarian, what matters is which class controls the authority and which is oppressed. Marxists want the working class in charge of that authority, while fascists want the bourgeoisie in charge. Until the state withers away upon full collectivization of production, and as such until class is abolished, it is best for the working class to have that control.
Western media is usually beholden to state department lines, and recieves partial funding. Moreover, western media is thoroughly under the control of wealthy capitalists laser-focusing on their own interests. There’s no such thing as “free” mass media.
This is more dodging the points raised than addressing them. You have proposed reasons for why the data may not be as accurate as possible, but that only prompts further investigation, not closing the book entirely. Further, all states are “authoritarian,” and no state wants to report a high suicide rate, so that isn’t a reasonable counter. Until the state withers away, it’s better for workers to have control of that authority.
A big part of it is how overwhelmingly negative the use of authority is within capitalism. This is a deeply pervasive issue because the ready-made conditions of capitalism make all authority seem to be inherently evil.
Yep! Another analogy I love is the tactician and the strategian working hand in hand to come up with a multi-sided and complete solution to a given complex problem.
The PRC has outlawed slave labor, and purchasing Power in 2022 was 25 times higher than 1978. It’s time for you to turn off Fox News.
Further, China is “undermining” western, imperialist economies, but is actively engaged in multilateralism in the global south. They gain influence because their involvement actually develops the global south, rather than relying on an extractionary form of economy like the US and Europe do.
Yes, exactly. This is why socialism is important, not just trying to form a more ethical capitalism. Management is critical. Tacticians, for example, often focus on the immediate, while strategians focus on the large-scale and long-term. They coincide and reinforce each other, and no one person can do both adequately. Production is similar, there is a need for those focused on the bigger picture of organizing and those focused on the small, and though those at the smaller end may be working according to grander plans not set by themselves, this is not done to enrich the grander planners, but to come to success for all.
There’s no need to be condescending, the person you are replying to is a communist. They are trying to get you to see the merits of socialist organization, not simply attacking all management.
Yes, fantastic way to put it, again further illustrating why complex society requires different positions of focus, including different levels of organization. You cannot have local governments functioning properly without a cohesive central government, and a central government cannot properly handle or comprehend the complexities of local life without strong local governments. Democratic centralism and whole process people’s democracy are proven tools of meeting the needs of the people.
Why? The PRC is making rapid scientific progress in production, infrastructure, green energy development, multilateral trade, and is wildly popular among its working class for the great achievements socialism has brought them. The large firms and key industries are state run, while the secondary and light industry has diverse forms of ownership from private to cooperative to joint-stock. Already, while being only in the primary stage of socialism, they are surpassing the US Empire.
The PRC’s Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is merely one form of socialism, it just happens to be the presently most advanced form of it. Other countries like Cuba have similar but different forms of socialism.
Those aren’t exclusive. Collaboration and leadership can coexist, especially when the leadership is accountable to the led. Differences in skill and experience exist, period, so acknowledging this and accounting for it is the best way to meet everyone’s needs best from everyone’s skills and talents. It also allows those that have less skill to gain guidance and training in a less directly responsible manner.
If you have evidence that it’s greater or lesser in any of these states, then please, share. Otherwise, this is just a non-falsifiable claim.
Yes, leftist news is worth listening to, but these are by no means the common news sources in the west. Social democtats are not socialists, you cannot be both a capitalist and a socialist. Believe me, I have done reading on the history of socialism, I’m a communist.