Russian state media. Not a credible source for anything (see also the other articles for some glaring examples of misinformation).
Although if Ukraine has less PoWs to exchange, part of the reason might be that Russia would rather see their soldiers die than surrender. They actively shoot their own soldiers.
Source: watched Enemy at the Gates one time
Did that comment get upvoted? We’ve really been invaded by Russian imperialists, have we?
Not believing every single piece of anti Russian propaganda, no matter how silly it is, is not the same as being pro-Russian
No, but claiming Russian state media is more independent and reliable than the diversity of western media, is.
haha yea, the western media says it’s un-credible so it must be true! Not lik they have any incentive to slander a news outlet that bucks approved western narratives or anythin. Nope. No reason at all! 😂
Unlike Russian state media, western media is independent and not beholden to their government, but nice try.
“Independent” western media? I’d sooner find a unicorn
Tell me who NRC is beholden to, then.
NRC is beholden to the massive corporate conglomerate Mediahaus, which is, in turn, beholden to the Belgian oligarch Thomas Leysen.
They’ve got a strict separation between ownership and editors, though. They regularly go against the grain and report deeper than merely repeating the convenient narrative.
Sure, capitalism and independent media don’t go together well, but state control and i dependent media are an even worse combination, and on the scale of what’s possible, NRC is doing quite well. Certainly much better than Tass.
They’ve got a strict separation between ownership and editors, though.
No they don’t. Ultimately ownership chooses who works there.
They regularly go against the grain and report deeper than merely repeating the convenient narrative.
How did you determine this?
Sure, capitalism and independent media don’t go together well, but state control and i dependent media are an even worse combination
Pure vibes based statement.
and on the scale of what’s possible, NRC is doing quite well.
How did you determine the this? Because it tells you narratives that agree with your world view?
Western media is usually beholden to state department lines, and recieves partial funding. Moreover, western media is thoroughly under the control of wealthy capitalists laser-focusing on their own interests. There’s no such thing as “free” mass media.
Which state department do you mean? Are you aware that “western media” is spread over 2 dozen different countries? Sure, US corporate media is highly partisan and corrupt, but even the US has independent media, and many other countries have much more independent media. They’re certainly not as dominated by the state, let alone a single state, as they are in Russia. Not even in the US (although that’s certainly moving in that direction). And in every western country, even the US, the media will often disagree with or debunk the government’s narrative.
Private media is beholden to the wealthiest in society, and often recieves state funding as well. This is true across all western nations, including European nations. The few, minor independent news organizations that go against the grain are overwhelmed by the standard mass media.
Bullshit. Sure, in the US everything is corporate owned and controlled. But in Europe, there are media reporting every side of every story. My primary newspaper (NRC, a major Dutch newspaper) has no problem going against the grain when the situation calls for it. But even in the US with its highly partisan media, there are news outlets for every political leaning, and many do not blindly parrot the government narrative like Russian media does.
Whatever misgivings you have about western media (and some are definitely justified), it’s really no comparison to Russia, where a wrong word can have you falling out of a window. Putin brutally silences dissent in a way even Trump can only dream of.
Dutch media isn’t particularly different from US media. Further, the “every political leaning” really just translates to various flavors of right-wing, from SocDem to fascist. What gets boosted by private investors is what permeates discourse. Private media is no less biased than state media.
The netherlands are absolutely not exempt from this phenomenon. It affects every country where capital stands above political power and the media, including yours.
Putin brutally silences dissent in a way even Trump can only dream of.
Israel has murdered more journalists than Putin could dream of, with full support of Europe.
This coming from someone who was perfectly happy using the Ukrainian military as a source. Are you going to also try to argue that they are independent from the state?
I don’t know what you’re talking about, and I doubt you do. You’re here defending Tass as a source.
I’m talking about here https://lemmy.ml/post/35157502/20675876.
So yes, I do know what I’m talking about, and I suspect you know to, and are just pretending not to because you can’t actually defend yourself on this.
western media is independent and not beholden to their government
Good one! 😂😂
Definitely better than Russian media.
Source on them shooting their own soldiers???
Lol, those are literally using the Ukrainian military as their source. Not even state media, literally just the state military itself. You absolute hypocrite.
Are you arguing that all video from a warzone is inherently fake?
While it’s true that truth is the first casualty in war, and you’ve got to apply that filter to all news coming from any warzone (also the Russian side; again, see what you’re defending), the reports on Russian atrocities, even against their own soldiers, are overwhelming. They’re also coming from Russian sources.
But sure, keep your head in the sand. You probably also don’t believe reports about IDF atrocities in Gaza, do you?
You know someone has nothing when they’re resorting to “are you saying that [obviously false statement that doesn’t actually resemble what they said]?”
the reports on Russian atrocities, even against their own soldiers, are overwhelming. They’re also coming from Russian sources.
You say, having only been able to provide sources from the Ukrainian government.
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Orrrrrrrrrr you could just put down the western propaganda and free your self from colonialism js
Freeing people from colonialism requires defeating Russia. That’s the last remaining colonial empire in Europe that’s still holding on to most of its colonies. And even wants the few it’s lost back.
Dwarves maybe?
Russia has thousands more dead soldiers.
Ok??? Is this the cope Olympics or
