What matters is the will of the people. It’s the people who overthrew Yanukovich

“What matters is the will of the fascists who overthrew the democratically elected government.”

It was a coup by Banderite fascists with US support. Maidan was a false flag massacre of protesters & police by Banderite snipers. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311886.2023.2269685

If the Donbass separatists had such popular support, Donbass would have been independent without requiring Russian support.

So the coup-government-backed Banderite paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine between 2014 and 2022, causing ~14,000 fatalities had nothing to do with it?

Why are you assuming this person is anarchist, or a child? They’re communist. They think a socialist state is a necessary step on the path to a classless society.

And anyway, ageism is a form of bigotry and against rule 1.

Putin wants to control Ukraine. At any cost. He wants Stalin’s empire back.

Yup, that’s what the media have told me unceasingly. It’s bullshit, and anyway the USSR wasn’t an “empire.”

They throw ridiculous numbers of soldiers at pointless human wave assaults just to gain a couple of meters ground.

No, they don’t. You’re just parroting the “meat wave” propaganda that’s been blasted at us for the last 3½ years. And it’s a canard that goes back at least as far as WWII Nazi war propaganda. It’s as real as the Ghost of Kyiv.

He talks about NATO expansion as if that’s something the US is pushing

The US has been pushing that since the Warsaw Pact dissolved, and was planning for it long before. Weaponizing Europe, Countering Eurasia: Mackinder, Brzezinski, Nuland and the Road to the Ukraine War

Next you’re going to tell us that NATO is a defensive alliance.

Previously:

The US-backed Maidan coup and US & Ukraine-supported fascist paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine:

• Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
• Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
• Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
• BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
• Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
• Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
• The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
• The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
• WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
• Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
• The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
• openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
• Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
• Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
• Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
• Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
• NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide

 
NATO expansion:

• George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
• Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
• Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
• Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
• Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

 
NATO in general:

• The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
• CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
• Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
• Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
• Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It

We’re not talking about the CFA franc; we’re talking about neocolonialism, about World Bank and IMF debt traps and imposed neoliberal shock therapies.

• 📺 Africa is Rich
• Neocolonialism
• Super-Imperialism
• The Shock Doctrine
• Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
• The Jakarta Method
• How to Hide an Empire

Eh… DemSoc is left wing while SocDem is basically welfare capitalism these days.

In modern practice, social democracy has taken the form of predominantly capitalist economies, a robust welfare state, policies promoting social justice, market regulation, and a more equitable distribution of income.

I didn’t do anything; I’m just the messenger.

Perhaps higher, because Hong Kong was under British imperialist control until recently, and was capitalist until recently, like Taiwan and South Korea are.

You’re not going to see a significant suicide rate, if the people who might kill themselves, are killed by something else first.

Unless you have evidence that such a hypothetical is actually occurring, why float it?

As for China, their population is so large that almost any bad stat looks small.

That’s not how per capita rates work.

That China averages out to stats that look OK, doesn’t make the stuff happening in HK or Xinjiang go away.

What’s happening in HK & Xinjiang?

Previously:

The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate the people of Hong Kong ended, a lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed. It was the so-called “revolutionaries” who brought the brutality, by the way.

Previously:

The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

• The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
• A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
• The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
• Uyghur genocide allegations
• American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
• US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
• The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent

If anyone’s hoping that this lemmy.ML community will defederate from lemmygrad.ML anytime soon, then you obviously don’t understand where the fuck you even are.