• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      8 days ago

      This has been the same objective from the outset of the war. Why the 4 oblasts? Are we just erasing the seperatists there that Kiev has been at war with and shelling for the last decade?

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        8 days ago

        “Separatists” just means Russians that wear unmarked uniforms. The Russians had the GRU there from the beginning. It wasn’t an organic movement.

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          Yes, the Russians were there, for centuries. They are majority ethnically Russian, they speak Russian, and are culturally Russian. The Donbass region was added to Ukrainian jurisdiction in 1922, but to this day they are ethnically Russian. When the Euromaidan coup happened and the far-right Banderites took power, the Donbass region seceded.

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            “Ethnically Russian” is a racist dogwhistle. Like 30% of the us population is ethnically German. Should Germany now invade?

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              The US is a settler-colony, that’s an entirely different situation. The Donbass region is historically a group occupied by ethnic Russians, Russian is the dominant language, and it has been this way for centuries. Even a basic Wikipedia article makes this clear. Whether or not the Donbass region is historically occupied by ethnic Russians isn’t what’s in question, what’s important is that the post-Euromaidan government is a group of nationalist Banderites that have been suppressing ethnic Russians, including erasure of the Russian language.

              This is why it’s important to recognize that the seperatists have very good reasons to want to leave Ukraine. Those that are against their ability to join Russia through annexation must make the argument that they not be allowed to secede even from a government that has been shelling and slaughtering them.