The Russian Presidential Aide and head of the Russian negotiating group with Ukraine also said that recently the Russian Military Historical Society handed over several thousand books to the institutions where Ukrainian prisoners of war are being held, including textbooks on the history of Russia in the 20th century and pamphlets about Bandera
  • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
    12·
    13 hours ago

    but told what really happened

    How did you determine what “really happened”?

    They’ve never shied away from stories inconvenient to any government or corporate interest, as long as it’s based in facts.

    How did you determine that? You don’t know what stories they elect not to run.

    They’re highly regarded for their objectivity.

    By who? People who agree with their bias?

    If you want to attack them, you’ve got to come up with more than vibes.

    Mate, you’re the one who’s been making claims based on vibes. I’m not the one just asserting that they’re objective and honest without evidence.

    And the fact that you’re baselessly attacking them while defending Tass, is outright ridiculous.

    Strawman

    • mcv@lemmy.zip
      16·
      11 hours ago

      How did you determine what “really happened”?

      Finally a productive question. You listen to all the sides. You listen to independent media on the ground. You don’t just cling to whatever story happens to fit your worldview, but you consider the different stories and watch what adds up and what doesn’t. Who leaves out what details to better fit their narrative and who tells the whole thing.

      And sure, that means you’ve got to do some work. Put in some actual critical thought. And yes, lots of people don’t like that just stick to whatever narrative they prefer, or even whatever is fed to them. But looking critically at media is a vital survival skill these days.

      Blindly accepting known partisan media on the very topic you know they can’t be objective about, is not that.

      • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        8·
        7 hours ago

        you listen to all the sides.

        Except sides published by state media in countries you don’t like, or media that you personally have determined is false. So no you do not listen to all sides, you listen to all sides that fit your worldview. This isn’t complicated for everyone else in this thread but it’s apparently quite complicated for you

        • mcv@lemmy.zip
          12·
          5 hours ago

          Do you think the state media of a nation committing atrocities is going to tell you the truth about those atrocities? Do you believe Israeli denial of genocide in Gaza?

          If you do, you’re a naive tool of imperialists.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
        11·
        11 hours ago

        No, I asked how you did it. Because you clearly didn’t listen to all sides, and you clearly did just cling to whatever story happens to fit your worldview. You were even at the point of lying to defend your worldview

        Who leaves out what details to better fit their narrative and who tells the whole thing.

        How do you determine what “the whole thing” is?

        And sure, that means you’ve got to do some work. Put in some actual critical thought. And yes, lots of people don’t like that just stick to whatever narrative they prefer, or even whatever is fed to them. But looking critically at media is a vital survival skill these days.

        Lol, maybe you should try it then.

        Blindly accepting known partisan media on the very topic you know they can’t be objective about, is not that.

        Then you should stop doing it.