In my opinion we need to support other websites like odysee and peertube. If everyone here continue to watch content on yt we won’t have a real alternative. This is my thought. For me the best alternative right now is odysee and I’m trying to watch only creator there. (If u want a list of content creator I can write it down)
Odysee is a nonstarter for me with its lack of moderation, resulting in a lot of right-wing hate filled garbage. Also, their thing with using some virtual currency and paying creators is weird. I want no part of cryptocurrency or “space dollars” or whatever they want to call it. PeerTube is ideal but not enough people are posting to it, which is frustrating. Youtube frontends, like invidious, are our best solution until creators move to something else.
Just use RSS for what you want from Odysee, Peertube and even Bit-chute. Then forget the rest. It’s what I’ve done. I’ve got no problem with it.
Your argument doesn’t hold much weight.
yeah but is the only decent alternative in my opinion. There are several privacy and tech creator. In future maybe will be better. But we need to use alternative to youtube. This is the point. Also if it’s not perfect. Ai is coming to yt!
Odysee’s policies make it unusable. I remember the first video I ever clicked to watch on Odysee was a video titled something like “What I am doing for Pride month.” This video was on the front page at the top. I clicked it and it was some lady preaching about how Pride is evil and perverse and all kinds of hateful rhetoric and how it was ruining our children. I just looked at Odysee again and, months later, I see more of her videos on the front page. Upon exploring Odysee, there is even more of this type of content still freely available to watch. I don’t care which way you lean, hate speech should never be acceptable. It is well known that the platform is a right wing cesspool. Here is a Reddit thread from 5 years ago where people were discussing the same thing, nothing has changed. It is the platform you go to when you are too crazy for YouTube (which is pretty nuts). It is not a viable alternative to YouTube for most people. There doesn’t exist a good alternative, PeerTube being the most promising option at the moment.
I fundamentally disagree. Look at what they are doing now framing Israel criticism as “hate speech”. Either all speech is free speech or none is, because “hate” can be defined as anything. You could easily frame all sorts of speech as “hate” speech against some group.
Now we can have a conversation about the merits of free speech, which is an entirely different beast. But if you are comfortable with limiting speech, you need to necessarily be comfortable with the fact that the same mechanism can and will be used to limit your speech.
Free speech is not all speech. It never has been. People who think everyone should be allowed to say whatever are the same people who just want to say the “N” word and other hateful things without consequences. There should always be consequences for what you say and I don’t care which way it lands ideologically on the subject of free speech, hate speech is wrong, period. It is widely accepted what hate speech is; if you say anything against marginalized groups, you are wrong. If you use religion to justify your hate, you are wrong. If you call for the harm of others, you are wrong. Call it what you want. I am not going to sit here and debate free speech. My point was Odysee is full of the worst kind of people and you should not have to suffer those people because you want an alternative to YouTube.
Either all speech is free speech or none is
I agree with this.
Ai is getting to more than just YT. Nothing is perfect just yet.
Really hope PeerTube continues to be built up! Would be nice as an alternative.
We need more creator there!
The main issue with YouTube alternatives that makes people not want to move is they can no longer watch their favorite creators because none of them want to move from YouTube. Especially the ones whos entire JOB is making YouTube content.
yeah but odysee has a tool to sync ur yt video to the plattaform so you don’t have to manually upload
Why is there no piracytube? If anyone watches smth from youtube, they automatically seed them. And it shares videos via p2p. If you wanna support the creator, almost all have patreon or smth.
If anyone is interested in peertube, there’s an awesome collection of channels here: https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos
There’s also a number of peertube related communities: !peertube@lemmy.world
Hope to see you all there!
nice suggest
Lots of people test the alternatives, find they actually really do like the comfort of the YouTube bubble and go back.
Most people are not going to be hard core free speech advocates who will ignore/block what they don’t like.
Any chance of competition requires algorithmic discovery, censorship (to the users biases), and transparency across platforms
Apps like grayjay that pull content from multiple platforms seamlessly is a good first step in making video streaming fungible.
Well it’s not like we can follow a youtuber on peertube, odysee or bitchute if they don’t post on those platforms.
you’re right, we need more content creator on those plattaform!
Nah, hard pass on Odysee.
Nah, hard pass on YouTube.
why?
No moderation. Every time I’ve looked at it it’s been full of alt-right bullshit. The people running it pretty much have to know, so are apparently fine with it. I’m not.
Not a good argument.
Just use RSS for what you want from Odysee, Peertube and even Bit-chute. Then forget the rest. It’s what I’ve done. I’ve got no problem with it. Really is that simple.
I have an even better idea, I won’t use services that are fine with that sort of content. Why should I inflate their user count and encourage others to use their site?
I don’t want anything from Odysee.
Then you have no right to complain over how Google exploits you. Your argument is a weak one. Is it just me, or do people on forums and such just go to whine online for the sake of it? 🙂
How is google exploiting me? I’m using peertube.
It’s just you, mostly I see people show up to try and convince people they’re very smart, and then end up looking foolish. 😁
And I see people (you for example) who love drama as liars. Because why are you on here crying over YouTube still then if Peertube is enough? If anyone is looking foolish, it’s you. 😁
When it comes to European content, especially the Czech and Slovak ones, there is no alternative in the case of YouTube. Every content creator here is on Meta’s platforms, Reddit, and/or YouTube. So the only way to watch them without ads (I’m supporting some of them via superchats) is to use an AdBlock or an alternative frontend like Tubular.
the people don’t know alternative
Freetube has an update today (at least for Linux). Seems to be working much better now.
yes but my point is to replace the source of video itself not the frontend
Is Odysee even decentralized still?
yes lbry is decentralized
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I spent better than a month blocking all of the extreme right content and bullshiy on Odyssey. There’s not enough content left to fill 15 minutes of my day
I set up new pipe attached it to Peer tube there’s a couple of people on there that are okay but hardly anything. Completely lacking any form of monitization, peer tube just lacks creators like mad.
Odyssey and rumble are just cesspools, and peer tube is starved for anybody half decent.
