Just for discussions sake, where does vigilantism end, though?
If this guy wasn’t recording everything and making a youtube channel out of it, I’d be much less interested in asking that question.
I’m also of the opinion that the tv show COPs was misguided and shouldn’t have existed. None of my opinions here are excuses for predators. I just find packaging up and “selling” the effort to be an indication of conflicting motives. And that makes me inclined to see the companies point about vigilantes, laws about entrapment, or whatever. Etc.
I agree, in principle vigilantism isn’t good for society.
It opens the door for, let’s say heavily misguided, people to carry out whatever justice they want.
Yes, it is also dangerous for the individuals with good intentions.
However, if the “proper” system does nothing, who will?
In the case of Roblox, I’m going to compare this to a public park;
In this park some adults set up a free candy van for kids. The park rangers/owners (moderators) see this, and choose to ignore it. Some other people at the park report their concerns to the rangers, yet a week later they find 3 more vans have shown up.
Finally, one person steps up and calls the police directly. The police can do nothing with the information, as there’s “no evidence”. Desperate to stop them, the person disguises them self as a child (don’t ask) to get the evidence. Police show up and apprehend the perpetrators.
The rangers are now angry that the person called the cops to their park, and bans that person from the park for “pretending to be a kid”.
If Roblox is unwilling to participate in the justice system set by society, they have no place in it.
As for schelps making YT videos, I say keep doing it. Not only does is help spread awareness to issues like this, it documents the “vigilante” actions. Society can decide from there what to do with that information.
I don’t like how recording it and posting it is a get out of jail free card regarding the problems of vigilantism. But I can’t argue against the idea should it keep them honest, and they should be slapped down if they cross red lines.
It really feels like part of a cyperpunk future. Personal video channels following vigilantes staking the digital play pens for predators.
Just for discussions sake, where does vigilantism end, though?
If this guy wasn’t recording everything and making a youtube channel out of it, I’d be much less interested in asking that question.
I’m also of the opinion that the tv show COPs was misguided and shouldn’t have existed. None of my opinions here are excuses for predators. I just find packaging up and “selling” the effort to be an indication of conflicting motives. And that makes me inclined to see the companies point about vigilantes, laws about entrapment, or whatever. Etc.
I agree, in principle vigilantism isn’t good for society. It opens the door for, let’s say heavily misguided, people to carry out whatever justice they want. Yes, it is also dangerous for the individuals with good intentions.
However, if the “proper” system does nothing, who will?
In the case of Roblox, I’m going to compare this to a public park;
In this park some adults set up a free candy van for kids. The park rangers/owners (moderators) see this, and choose to ignore it. Some other people at the park report their concerns to the rangers, yet a week later they find 3 more vans have shown up.
Finally, one person steps up and calls the police directly. The police can do nothing with the information, as there’s “no evidence”. Desperate to stop them, the person disguises them self as a child (don’t ask) to get the evidence. Police show up and apprehend the perpetrators.
The rangers are now angry that the person called the cops to their park, and bans that person from the park for “pretending to be a kid”.
If Roblox is unwilling to participate in the justice system set by society, they have no place in it.
As for schelps making YT videos, I say keep doing it. Not only does is help spread awareness to issues like this, it documents the “vigilante” actions. Society can decide from there what to do with that information.
I don’t like how recording it and posting it is a get out of jail free card regarding the problems of vigilantism. But I can’t argue against the idea should it keep them honest, and they should be slapped down if they cross red lines.
It really feels like part of a cyperpunk future. Personal video channels following vigilantes staking the digital play pens for predators.
I wouldn’t call it a get out of jail, but it is evidence for a jury to look at it.
I would much rather read news stories about police stopping these things, but here we are.