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Ken M?
Where do people find the energy to stan for pop singers?
parasocial fans, i heard there is a subset of fans that believe shes is a lesbians, and would constantly try to explain away her hetero-relationship as a “album track”. Also parasocial fans are something else compared to just a regular “mega” fan defending her music.
All billionaires are evil. All of them.
Taylor CO2 Swift
A relic from a bygone era, but my favorite meme of all time
“20 years ago, I was a 300lbs man who touched little kids. I ate nothing but Subway for a year and now I’m an incredibly popular and cute woman with a career in the music industry!”
I’d love to see Trav hyphenate and have Kelce‐Swift on his jersey. It would anger all the right people.
For maximum triggering he should put her name first, Swift-Kelce. Plus whenever commentators talk about him it’ll always sound like they’re complimenting his speed.
I am so damn tired hearing about this stupid engagement. If the goal of this post is that we’re going to talk sexism and feminism, the last way it should be done is through the lens of an out of touch idolized billionaire
T Swizzle is the American equivalent of a Royal now…
So that’s why Trump is envious then
ill never understand how “married women are expected to change their name to their husband’s” is still a thing in the 21st century
To me, the real issue is that the entire process is one giant double standard which is built on that expectation. At least it is in the US.
If a woman wants to change her last name to her husband’s, it’s fairly easy. She can just mail a form to the Social Security Administration and use her SS card to get a new photo ID.
If a man wants to change his last name to his wife’s, he has to hire an attorney and get a court order.
I guess this is the US of A? Here in a northern European country you get the option when you marry to keep your names, combine both, only keep the husband’s or only keep the wife’s.
Now that’s the way to do it.
In Spain, since the 16th century, the wife keeps her last name, and father and mother last names are used, the order of which can be changed.
Also, after your 18th birthday you can change it to whichever order you want.
I’ve wondered, though, what happens when the kid gets married and has a kid?
When Juan Acevedo-Rodriguez marries Mariana Cortez-Garza, what is their kid’s last name?
Edit: disregard, I should have kept scrolling, someone already answered my question.
Not to detract from your general point, but no, you don’t need an attorney to change your name in (at least most of) the US, especially if you have a reason you can put on a simple court filing like “marriage”. It is somewhat unnecessarily complicated by paperwork, but you definitely don’t need a lawyer and it isn’t recommended to pay for one for something so simple.
I know this because I’m transgender and have changed my entire name, and looked up the process in multiple states.
That’s good to know. Still more complicated than it should be but not as bad as I thought.
You had to do it in multiple states? Or was it a One State to Rule them All situation? Serious question, by the way.
I looked into the process in multiple states cause I was moving around from state to state at the time I wanted to change it, and while I’m originally from Michigan and would have to go through them for birth certificate changes (so yes, kinda one state to rule them all), the rest of the legal name change process is done wherever you currently live.
Oh, sheesh! That’s tough! I hope you were able to get it done and registered and that you are now called by your heart’s name.
It’s even worse in Japan, where married women are legally required to take their husband’s name. (There is mounting pressure to reform this, though the conservative ruling party is dragging its feet.)
I find it weird that it’s an expectation but I don’t think it’s weird that some women like to do it. My wife wasn’t going to change her name, but decided last minute to take my name because she wanted to share a name with any kids we’d end up having and we both agreed we’d want our kids to have my last name. Now we almost have our daughter (our first) and she has no regrets. But I wouldn’t have been upset if she kept her name. She’s got a far cooler last name than me anyway. Maybe I should’ve taken hers. Oh well.
It’s easier that everyone in the family has the same surname imo
So the kids get double surnames?
Do their kids get quadruple surnames? Where does it end?
The Spanish system is superior:
FirstName(s) Parent1LastName Parent2LastNameTo clarify it’s the first last name of both parents, and you can choose the order with the condition all children of same parents must have the same order.
Just pushes the issue down one generation…
Parent1 B C, Parent2 J K
Makes Child1 C K
(or Child1 K C)
…
Parent3 B A, Parent4 J H
Makes Child2 A H
(or Child2 H A)
…
Child1 and Child2 become Parent5 and Parent6
Parent5 C K, Parent6 A H
Child3 K H
(or Child3 H K)
…
it seems to work pretty well (ends up preferring people with two surnames, which is an ok amount of surnames)
flamingo said, a couple comments up, that it’s the first last name of both parents. So Child1 should be B J or J B, Child2 should be the same and Child3 should hence be B B, B J, J B, or J J depending on what 1 and 2 chose. Right?
The whole system collapses if you have a child with someone who has “chosen” a different family surname order.
I agree with the fact that it’s easier for everyone to share the same name, especially when one parent travels alone with the kids. It’s such a faff (with good reasons) if you don’t have the same.
The issue is more that it’s often assumed that the wife has to take the husband’s name by default, rather than it being ultimately a choice between the couple.
Well wouldn’t mind if it was the other way around, but I appreciate that there is a rule, so no one gets offended when you ditch a generational name.
Couples I’ve known who both had double-barrelled surnames before marriage generally combined one of the names from each of their names to create a new double-barrelled name, which is what their new family and kids use. E.g. A-B marries X-Y and they become B-Y or X-A or whatever.
Sometimes, the missing parts of the surname get given to specific children as middle names. Which is a nice way of acknowledging older family members without burdening your kid with an old or boring name.
Here, there is no surname. every name is a given name. Yes, even something like Abdul Juan Michael Obama Pierre can be a full given name of one guy.
where I live, kids still usually take on their father’s name (sometimes the names are combined), but the mother almost never takes on her husband’s name. so yes, usually the mother will be an outlier in her family, last name wise.
i don’t think mothers were i live are less connected to their family because of it, tho
(altho, personally, i still don’t like the fact that it’s expected for kids to take on their father’s name, it feels like a relic of a shitty system better left in the past)
Icelandic patronyms like to have a word. You can have a 4 person family and nobody has the same “last name”
Which, like most Icelandic peculiarities, is adorable, but doesn’t scale well, especially with the pool of available names being restricted by the Naming Committee (in Iceland, it is illegal to give a child a name that is not on a list of approved names). With under 400,000 people in the country, and almost no family names, Icelandic phone directories apparently list people’s nicknames as well, so you don’t call the wrong Gunnlaugur Þóraresson by mistake.
Nicknames are not listed, but profession is. However, I find claims of it “not scaling well” to be strange given there are three million “Smiths” in the US and most of which are entirely unrelated.
Also, you can ask the committee to add new names, and they do let quite a few weird ones enter every month.
The legal use is 2 surnames, father mother, people can often recite combinations to several generations back, but that is really ancdotic, although it makes genealogy pretty straight forward
Right… As long as people were faithful (90%)
Still works, it’s just the DNA that doesn’t get passed along.
How? You assign your father as your “father” but your real father is your uncle. Then this wrong info is passed for generations. Where is the error correction term?
In this form, it’s as useful as normal Surnames.
I agree it’s so much eeasier. It’s kinda weird how much stuff gets easier when you just say “that’s my wife/husband”. It magically erodes a lot of barriers. People rarely check, but if they do they seem to only go as far as making sure the last names match.
Wellcome to the Spaniard custom, probably older than your country 🫠
16th century.
Eh weird dig considering a lot of other European countries do it that way. It’s not just the US or Canada.
It’s not really a dig on the age and the custom of the US, but a dig on the incredulity with which the system that has been in place for tons of generations in Spain was presented by the commenter. Let me rephrase it, “the custom is older than the US, don’t talk about it as if it were an alien concept”.
Women and men are both ‘expected’ to do a lot of various things. I think the main issue is that the average man doesn’t care, while the average woman does care and adheres to the expectations.
I see this happen so often with women. They keep following some stupid, made up rules, and then complain about it afterwards. Whereas men will just ignore them. Of course, there are many women who don’t have this problem, and many men who do.
It should be noted that affected people are not at fault here. Nobody chooses what personality they are born with. In many cases this is actually a positive trait. So perhaps the core issue is society abusing this characteristic.
Let’s trade. Women can keep their names when they let their sons keep their foreskins.
That’s… a bizarre take on the situation.
Rest of the world: wat
Whenever I’ve had this debate, it’s always the men who are pro-circumcision, but go off I guess.
Meanwhile in reality, women are more likely to support circumcision than men.
I know the plural of anecdote isn’t data but my ex wife asked me to go get her some stuff from the cafeteria and asked the nurses to have the doctor come back to circumcise our son while I was gone, after we agreed not to, and reaffirmed that we didn’t want to when the doctor first came in. Maybe I should have thought something was up when she asked me to go to the cafeteria half an hour later but it never even crossed my mind. I came back upstairs to the room and there he was, and you can’t undo it. It fucked with me so bad and a big part of it is as the father you’re really not able to be mad about anything in that environment right after your wife gives birth. He’s healthy so I guess it isn’t a huge deal, my second son isn’t circumcised. I’m not saying it had to be my way or the highway but she never even displayed a significant preference when we talked about it. Just said, yeah that’s fine, we won’t circumcise him. Then just did it behind my back. Really fucks with you and yeah it’s not a mother/father problem, it’s a society and individual problem but I’ll go off. I’m not sure how often you’ve had your debates with people but I’ve worked with several women that have said they prefer circumcised penises so they got their son(s) customized.
That would have been marriage-ending for me.
In hindsight I don’t disagree at all. I didn’t have the best life growing up and unfortunately it really took until my forties to stop being so naive in life. I spent the majority of my life as a doormat wanting to be loved and not wanting to be another abusive asshole and swung the pendulum all the way over to not having any self respect.
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It makes my work maintaining computer systems a nightmare. Mary Smith changing to Mary Taylor makes my job harder. At least on these CoTS systems, and without notice.
Sounds like she worked so hard she would still be this popular even if she wasn’t her daddies little “entertainment investment”
her parents entertainment, once had to explain people on a sub about her, said she was from well off upbringing, her entire career was engineered by her parents.
I had a fun conversation one time.
A friend complained that all movies about band careers are the same. “They start from nothing. Struggle to get anything. Then suddenly get their big break and they’re famous. “
I was like, “yeah otherwise it’d be boring as shit. You want the Taylor Swift movie where her parents just pay her way into stardom?”
or moved them to TENNESSEE to seem more relatable to country bumpkins. thats why some post on the sub, said shes willing to hang out with people on the right to an extent. and alot of country singers are wealthy people anyways.
Oh yeah, I’ll bet you could do what she does even better if you had rich parents. /s
I have a rich father. He just doesn’t give a fuck about me.
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Is this gal not aware that taking your husband’s name is optional? Yeah, she’s probably not gonna, but if she does, it’s be disrepsectful NOT to call her by Kelce.
She can have a stage name be her maiden name. Not a big deal.
Taylor Swelce
The man is back?
dril has been posting a ton on Bluesky for as long as I’ve been on there (eight months?)
Has he enabled Bridgy Fed?
I hope so. He’s hopefully even stronger now due to the black mold.
Hats off to Susan Sarandon for keeping the name of her first husband forever after their divorce.
Ok, her name is taylor.swift now.
I think @weeder is the new @dril since @dril isn’t posting to bsky anymore
