Malle_Yeno

I’m not gonna respond to all of that but I will say:

1. I think there’s a fundamental difference between something not being to your taste and something being flawed. This kinda just reads like you didn’t enjoy your experience. That’s fine, but that doesn’t make the product flawed
2. a lot of the problems you mentioned have been improved on over the past few expansions
3. fidget spinners are fun, idk why you have beef with them lol

Totally! Not for everyone and certainly doesn’t have to be.

But I did hope that people who are making the leap from “I don’t like NMS” to “NMS isn’t good” would offer more to consider than the vibes not being there.

That’s fair! And for what it’s worth, the game now offers a creative mode that alleviates the need to mine resources if that’s not what you’re looking for. That might be what you want out of it?

I think this is comparing apples to oranges. NMS doesn’t place a lot of emphasis on its survival elements because it’s not trying to be a survival game, its emphasis is on exploration. The survival elements are there as constraints that let you differentiate your exploration experience (ex. Hey maybe put on some radiation shielding mods or else you’ll be constantly applying uranium and life support). Yeah, you can speedrun the main quest because the main quest isn’t really supposed to be a massive burden. You can land, collect all the Special Red Rock that you need, and then jet off. But why? You took the time to come out to this planet, why not explore it?

Odd to read your description of the side content as distractions. Beyond how there are systems acting as complements to exploration (exocraft for ex) or are there to explore themselves (ex fossils), which id say directly tie into the core loop, it’s just weird to me to view gameplay as distractions. Morrowind directly invited the player to go explore things besides the main quest, and it’s regarded as an excellent move for encouraging player freedom. This just seems like an analogue to that where the game is inviting you to explore other systems to see how you like their fit.

As for what is offered to you after the end game… You get to keep exploring, like you’ve been doing and the game has been encouraging you to do the whole time. I don’t know what else to say – you got a can of beans, why is it a problem that it didn’t come with any tomato and some salad at the bottom?

(Though I’ll grant you that NMS would be kick ass with some mods, id love to see that!)

I’ve read “Mile wide, inch deep” often enough in this thread that feels less like a problem and more like a thought-terminating cliche to me.

Is it a flaw to have a lot of smaller things you can do without them needing to be complete experiences themselves? They’re not trying to make a different game out of these expansions (except Light no Fire I guess lol), it’s still going to be NMS at the end of the day

👀 slay, how are the interiors?

ITT: people vaguely complaining about NMS but not pointing to anything that’s wrong with it.

Y’all know you can not like a product without something being fundamentally and at-its-core wrong with it, right? It could just be not your cup of tea?

I personally have been having a blast making my Corvette and am excited for the new expedition. The fact that I got all this stuff for no added cost makes me feel even better about the time I’ll have.

Hate to “umm ackshually” over what amounts to a difference of fictional rules, but for what it’s worth, vampires do have reflections in the World of Darkness setting. Only vampires of clan Lasombra (not playable in bloodlines) don’t have reflections since it’s their clan weakness.

Otherwise, if all vampires couldn’t have reflections, it would be incredibly easy to tell who’s a kindred and there would be no way of keeping up the Masquerade.