Her hover over says she did not know who the president was until high school. I never thought about it but I knew by mid grade school but that was due to the iranian hostages. I mean yeah there was watergate but man that iran contra really normalized the cheating.
I never thought about it but I knew by mid grade school but that was due to the iranian hostages. I mean yeah there was watergate but man that iran contra really normalized the cheating.
reagan working out a deal to sabotage carter’s efforts to release the hostages until after the election so he can win didn’t already normalize it for you? lol
thats what im talking about. They worked with iran to hold the hostages with an agreement to sell them arms. They just went on to use the profits to fund the contras so the october surprise was part one.
oic, i had always thought that the iran contra wasn’t known until reagan’s second term; but knowledge of his deal regarding the iranian hostages was known immediately to everyone except americans.
Nah many americans realized something was up. Just not the details. It was really wierd. I mean they were released immediately after he was sworn in. Honestly it felt worse like as if he got them to take the hostages to begin with.
this american saw the contra hearings on the news during reagan’s 2nd administration; but didn’t learn of the hostage deal until after clinton became president.
yeah as I said the details were not around but again the hostages were release like the minute reagan finished his oath of office. Anyone with eyes and ears could see something was going on.
not the older people in the room at the time; they literally saw it as a sign that god wanted them to pick reagan. lol
yeah just like with trump there was this idea that reagan so intimidated the iranians or some crap that they immediately surrendered.
It sounds like you’re actually conflating The Iranian Hostage Crisis and The Iran Contra Affair
Which is a very common mistake, you’re not the only one, both involve hostages and Iran, and they’re not totally unrelated.
This is all greatly simplified of course.
The Hostage Crisis was was basically part of the Iranian Revolution when Ayatollah Khomeini seized power, where a bunch of supporters of the revolution took hostages at the US embassy. This happened under Carter. Carter placed an arms embargo against Iran in response. And like you said they held off on releasing the hostages until Reagan was elected. The Algiers Accord that formally ended the crisis did not involve any arms sales.
Iran Contra happened under Reagan. Reagan wanted to fund anti-communist rebels in Nicaragua (the Contras) but was blocked from doing so by Congress.
Meanwhile, the Iran-Iraq war is going on, Iran is still under that arms embargo, and really needs some weapons for that war.
At the same time, over in Lebanon, Hezbollah (who Iran has some influence over) takes some US hostages.
So Reagan and his cronies, like Ollie North, come up with an idea.
To raise money off-the-books to send to the Contras, they secretly sell weapons to Iran, and in exchange Iran will use its connections to Hezbollah to get those hostages released (and the hostages were in fact released, but Hezbollah pretty much immediately took more hostages, this was in the middle of a whole decade-long hostage Crisis in Lebanon with hostages from several countries taken, this was really just a small part of that)
Im not conflating I just see it as all part of the same thing. They already had the relation they made with the iranians to get elected so it was a natural way to fulfill their part of the bargain and do another thing. Without the contras im 100% the arms would still have be sold to the iranians.
Its not politics, it is amoral men determined to erase the united States of America and replace it with a fascist oligarchy
I hate to break it to you but that is pretty typical for politics throughout most of history.
