• Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    4 days ago

    I wanted to remind that Mexican cartels grew this powerful by using the war on drug of the USA to target only Colombian cartels, so the USA are partly responsible for their growth

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      4 days ago

      That’s cool and all, but we (mexicans) had decades to try and fix… Anything at all, but we’ve regressed so much and it accelerated in 6 (almost 7) years that the USA responsibility is moot, we are doing this to ourselves and the plan is to make it even worse.

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        3 days ago

        I did not have more details, I just love any opportunity to spit on USA international policies.

        we are doing this to ourselves and the plan is to make it even worse

        What do you mean with this ? From what I know (not a lot, honestly), cartels are as powerful as unofficial country, with a shit ton of money (and weapons from the US), so honestly, I would not know how to deal with them.

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          3 days ago

          I did not have more details, I just love any opportunity to spit on USA international policies.

          … At least do some research before attempting to, this just makes you look like an ass or a propaganda account.

          What do you mean with this?

          The problem is not how to deal with the narcos, the problem (since the past administration) is the given order was TO NOT deal with the narcos, to let them do because the past president (and current cult leader) owes them everything.
          Like in the past it was bad and at least something was done to protect the civilians… Now it’s the opposite.

          Also the narcos are 1 problem, the rest comes from inside the goverment and the civilians.
          We’re being censored hard, the media is already heavily manipulated, the official numbers are doubtful (hence my constant complain about lemmy users posting graphics about how cool México is doing while we suffer a different reality), our rights are being trampled and stripped from us, and the president only exists to excuse the crimes and abuses from her party cult.
          It’s a fucking shitshow and they are working hard to make it worse.

          So… Shitting on the USA intervention is pointless after so many years, is a disservice to reality and (at least speaking from México) a way to excuse shitty goverments and a completely apathetic population who chooses the worst to try and make everyone else as miserable as they are (yes, that was the reason most of the people who voted for the current cult in power gave to the media and how they behaved on social networks).

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            3 days ago

            (hence my constant complain about lemmy users posting graphics about how cool México is doing while we suffer a different reality)

            Lemmy tiene un problema con los apodados tankies. Se oponen a cualquier cosa que este encontrar de EE.UU. y con morena siendo un partido izquierda le hechan porra. Lo irónico es que terminan apoyando el imperialismo de otro partido al vez de simplemente ser anti imperialista.

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              2 days ago

              Lo sé, el problema es que no son solamente los tankies, la mayoría se traga el cuento de que mierdena es de izquierda, cuando son más populistas conservadores que la chingada y encima lo defienden y se echan encima como si ellos, viviendo en otro país, supieran la realidad a partir de la propaganda que se tragaron.