• yesman@lemmy.world
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    I’m not talking about personal responsibility as in “don’t smoke cigarettes”. I’m talking about “ultra-processed foods are the mono-cause for all human disease”.

    These people don’t believe in health-risks. They believe that everyone who ever gets sick could have chosen not to.

    we have a personal responsibility to be as healthy as it is possible not only for our own good but for the greater good of society

    Ironic how fast “personal responsibility” becomes “you owe your body to the State”. But even if we ignore the totalitarianism of your system, it’s still wrong.

    Smokers and the Obese incur fewer lifetime health costs than joggers. So by your reasoning, it’s suddenly patriotic and prosocial to smoke, be a couch potato, and eat potato chips. People who work out are selfish and hate America.

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      Research and education behind smoking cessation, benefits of exercise, and cardiac drug advances was the worse thing to happen to pension plans and social security. Work, pay taxes, then die is the Project 2025 plan.

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      Don’t smoke cigarettes is cool if you didn’t grow up in a world where they were handing you cigarettes when you were seven years old.

      I quit heroin. Fucking heroin.

      Do you know what I can’t quit? Smoking.

      I was given my first cigarette when I was five years old. I was smoking a pack a day by the ripe old age of 12.

      I was addicted enough that I went out and cut grass entirely to buy cigarettes. My brother and I robbed a delivery truck and took several boxes of camels. I was 13 when we did that.

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      Society is not the state. Society are your fellow human beings.

      I was also never positioning this in terms of costs.

      You seem to be pretty good at misrepresenting arguments so I’m just gonna stop replying now since it is clear you will not engage in good faith.