Unless this book talks about Shpakovsky specifically - and I assume you’d have mentioned it if it did - this is not proof of anything at all. You cannot take, “a lot of Russians joined up with the Nazis after the October Revolution,” to show that one specific guy was a Nazi; this is the ecological fallacy at best, even if we assume that most white emigres did that. Like, it would be absurd to call Alexander Kerensky a Nazi, and yet your logic here does exactly that.
Sure if you also ignore the fact we can’t seem to account for what he actually did during the war or following the war before he suddenly pops up in this middle of nowhere town where the U.S. happened to be hiding other Nazis.
I would be very curious to read this report though if you can find it for me: Berezino district party committee report on the case of Ia. A. Shpakovskii, 24 May 1946
Bc it does seem that he was at least accused of Nazi collaboration at some point.
He does not pop up in the middle of nowhere. As I have already said to you, your own post says he retires there after living in America for over a decade and working in Jacksonville, Florida Alabama (thanks to derfunkatron for the correction)
Being unaccounted for in the middle of fucking WWII is not evidence that someone was an active Nazi
Is there any indication that that report is even about the guy we’re talking about? What does the Ia stand for? Is there some evidence he was in Belarus?
Idk that’s why I would like to read the report. Maybe it was another Soviet Nazi with the same initials and last name.
Also, 1941-1950 is not the middle of WWII. Wtf was he doing between the time the war ended and the time he came to Florida (which is actually another location Von Braun was shuffled) and then Alabama? We have nothing except the word of his son, which has proven to be very unreliable testimony for most things, even while under oath.
But if you want to defend this random guy, who raised quite the piece of shit, be my guest. Not really my problem.
It’s not even the same initials, though‽ You haven’t read the report, you don’t know that it’s even about the guy in question, and yet you’re still leaning on it to say “it does seem that he was at least accused of Nazi collaboration at some point.”
1941 is absolutely the middle of WWII and that’s when he goes missing.
We have nothing except the word of his son, which has proven to be very unreliable testimony for most things, even while under oath.
We have nothing saying he’s a Nazi in the first place!
I do not care about defending this guy. I know nothing about him, I haven’t read his work. I care about opposing the flinging around of unjustified accusations of Naziism; that shit is serious and should be treated seriously. Insisting that someone was an actual member of the Nazi party on the “evidence” you have provided is playing directly into the hands of the fascists that whine that people on the left call everyone Nazis these days. You actually are doing that.
God this is fucking exhausting. Good thing this guy’s not on trial and this is an Internet forum.
Sure thing chief. You’re right it’s ridiculous to think a criminal who completely changed the spelling of his birth name, might begin using his middle name as his first while escaping justice. It’s ridiculous to think there’s anything strange about this guy or his son. He’s completely innocent. He was a great man and will forever be remembered as a totally normal guy that nobody should look into any further. He was so innocent of any wrong doings that I find it weird anyone would even suggest or think there’s anything weird to even look into. Case closed. Congrassions. 🎉
Unless this book talks about Shpakovsky specifically - and I assume you’d have mentioned it if it did - this is not proof of anything at all. You cannot take, “a lot of Russians joined up with the Nazis after the October Revolution,” to show that one specific guy was a Nazi; this is the ecological fallacy at best, even if we assume that most white emigres did that. Like, it would be absurd to call Alexander Kerensky a Nazi, and yet your logic here does exactly that.
Sure if you also ignore the fact we can’t seem to account for what he actually did during the war or following the war before he suddenly pops up in this middle of nowhere town where the U.S. happened to be hiding other Nazis.
I would be very curious to read this report though if you can find it for me: Berezino district party committee report on the case of Ia. A. Shpakovskii, 24 May 1946
Bc it does seem that he was at least accused of Nazi collaboration at some point.
He does not pop up in the middle of nowhere. As I have already said to you, your own post says he retires there after living in America for over a decade and working in Jacksonville,
FloridaAlabama (thanks to derfunkatron for the correction)Being unaccounted for in the middle of fucking WWII is not evidence that someone was an active Nazi
Is there any indication that that report is even about the guy we’re talking about? What does the Ia stand for? Is there some evidence he was in Belarus?
Idk that’s why I would like to read the report. Maybe it was another Soviet Nazi with the same initials and last name.
Also, 1941-1950 is not the middle of WWII. Wtf was he doing between the time the war ended and the time he came to Florida (which is actually another location Von Braun was shuffled) and then Alabama? We have nothing except the word of his son, which has proven to be very unreliable testimony for most things, even while under oath.
But if you want to defend this random guy, who raised quite the piece of shit, be my guest. Not really my problem.
It’s not even the same initials, though‽ You haven’t read the report, you don’t know that it’s even about the guy in question, and yet you’re still leaning on it to say “it does seem that he was at least accused of Nazi collaboration at some point.”
1941 is absolutely the middle of WWII and that’s when he goes missing.
We have nothing saying he’s a Nazi in the first place!
I do not care about defending this guy. I know nothing about him, I haven’t read his work. I care about opposing the flinging around of unjustified accusations of Naziism; that shit is serious and should be treated seriously. Insisting that someone was an actual member of the Nazi party on the “evidence” you have provided is playing directly into the hands of the fascists that whine that people on the left call everyone Nazis these days. You actually are doing that.
God this is fucking exhausting. Good thing this guy’s not on trial and this is an Internet forum.
Sure thing chief. You’re right it’s ridiculous to think a criminal who completely changed the spelling of his birth name, might begin using his middle name as his first while escaping justice. It’s ridiculous to think there’s anything strange about this guy or his son. He’s completely innocent. He was a great man and will forever be remembered as a totally normal guy that nobody should look into any further. He was so innocent of any wrong doings that I find it weird anyone would even suggest or think there’s anything weird to even look into. Case closed. Congrassions. 🎉