• Lucien [he/him]@mander.xyz
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      4 days ago

      I don’t think they were defending him; I think they were saying you don’t need German credentials to be a proper, full-blooded Nazi. Just being American is enough.

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        Uhm… ok just seems like it’s kind of deflecting from the point that this dude’s dad probably got off the hook for commiting crimes against humanity and was allowed to start over fresh without ever facing justice for the atrocities he directly committed.

        I know as an American in many ways, I arguably hold some responsibility for benefiting from an unjust system. Still seems like a distraction in a post trying to call attention to the fact that a man literally trying to overthrow the American government was probably raised by a war criminal, and nobody has ever noticed this or brought it to the public’s attention.

        So like the openly racist son of a Nazi war criminal who escaped justice is equivalent to any other American such as myself? Interesting, I would like to imagine I’m not quite as bad for being part of an exploited working class in an unjust system this guy is actively controlling, but I guess if you see it that way, not much I could say to change your mind.

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          You don’t have to be German to be a Nazi, there are American Nazis.

          Are you calling me a Nazi?!?

          Jesus you people…

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            What’s funny about this is you’re going a long way to imply the father was a fascist/Nazi, when growing up in Alabama in the 50’s is all that’s needed to turn a child into a racist, fascist piece of shit.

            You don’t have to be German to be a Nazi, there are American Nazis. Just being American is enough

            I’m trying to say this is dumb without just coming out and saying this is fucking dumb

            You don’t have to be German to be a Nazi, there are American Nazis..Jesus you people…

            Why bother with acknowledging reality when we can paraphrase and keep distracting from the original point by getting weirdly defensive bc somebody pointed out a fascist’s dad was also a literal WWII Nazi

            Also, this is fucking dumb

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              Yes, this is dumb. I intentionally paraphrased the comments to be shorter and simpler, in the hope you will not misunderstand them. Let’s try and dumb this down even further: Nazism is neither an ethnic nor a heritable trait.

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          So like the openly racist son of a Nazi war criminal who escaped justice is equivalent to any other American such as myself? Interesting, I would like to imagine I’m not quite as bad for being part of an exploited working class in an unjust system this guy is actively controlling, but I guess if you see it that way, not much I could say to change your mind.

          This guy’s racism was probably influenced by his father’s views, but ultimately separate from his father’s potential nazism. What his father did, said, and believed should have no bearing on an evaluation of his morals. He’s an adult now.

          When I was in high school, I was a big fan of George W Bush, because my dad was. Fifteenish years later, my politics are vastly different from my father’s, and though there are overlaps (gay rights, legality of drugs, and privacy laws, mostly), it would be misleading for a someone to say that I inherited those from him.