It’s almost certainly going to be complete shit (if you are looking for a roleplaying game with strong world building and well written characters).
A mediocre action-RPG with a VTM theme. And Paradox are going to release a whole bunch of pricey DLCs while abandoning the core game and ignoring critical bugs.
I used to buy Paradox games 10+ years ago, by this point they are a European EA.
I’m still a sucker for Stellaris and Crusader Kings 3, but the HoI and Vicky followups have been stinkers. Their modern DLC pricing is also unhinged. I hope they will turn things around, but I don’t expect them.
And paradox are going to release a whole bunch of pricey DLCs while abandoning the core game and ignoring critical bugs.
I wanted to push back on that. I know they do that with their strategy games, but to do it with story-driven games too? “That’s far-fetched,” I thought. But no, you were spot on: There’s day 1DLC, two clans are behind a pay wall.
I replied to @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world with more information about the corporate structure, but the TL;DR for the purposes of your comment is that Paradox bought White Wolf, dissolved White Wolf shortly after V5’s release in 2018, and brought White Wolf back earlier this year and White Wolf is back in charge of both licensing and publishing. (I suspect they also have in-house development, but it’s not super clear.)
I’m not 100% clear on what you’re getting at in your final paragraph, but Werewolf W5 came out in 2023, and there have been numerous non-vampire World of Darkness video games released during the Paradox era, including 2020’s Werewolf: The Apocalypse — Heart of the Forest.
As for Changeling, after doing Vampire: The Masquerade, Hunter: The Reckoning, and Werewolf: The Apocalypse, the lead designer at White Wolf has said their next likely release will be a 5th edition Mage: The Ascension, but he also hinted at Changeling: The Dreaming, so it’s not unreasonably likely that that will get a 5th edition release some time in the next decade. 2018 for VtM, HtR in 2022, WtA in 2023, I’d think worst case 2027 for Mage, 2031/32 for Changeling, unless they stumble across problems that force it to be cancelled.
Yeah fair enough. As I said, there was at least one Werewolf game released kinda recently. It doesn’t seem to have had a brilliant reception, but it does exist. They also did release a Wraith game not too long ago, so they’re obviously not afraid to reach into the more niche parts of the world. Changeling may be possible at some point.
I hope it‘s everything fans hope for, they‘ve had to wait for too long
It’s almost certainly going to be complete shit (if you are looking for a roleplaying game with strong world building and well written characters).
A mediocre action-RPG with a VTM theme. And Paradox are going to release a whole bunch of pricey DLCs while abandoning the core game and ignoring critical bugs.
I used to buy Paradox games 10+ years ago, by this point they are a European EA.
I’m still a sucker for Stellaris and Crusader Kings 3, but the HoI and Vicky followups have been stinkers. Their modern DLC pricing is also unhinged. I hope they will turn things around, but I don’t expect them.
I wanted to push back on that. I know they do that with their strategy games, but to do it with story-driven games too? “That’s far-fetched,” I thought. But no, you were spot on: There’s day 1DLC, two clans are behind a pay wall.
I would have held my nose with the Day1 DLC if the game was good, but nah, they transformed it into an action RPG.
It’s really too bad that Paradox was the company that got the VTMB license.
From what I can tell, Paradox bought White Wolf and is actually licensing the publication rights for the TTRPG to another company now.
Which means I’ll probably never see a Werewolf or Changeling game.
I replied to @Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world with more information about the corporate structure, but the TL;DR for the purposes of your comment is that Paradox bought White Wolf, dissolved White Wolf shortly after V5’s release in 2018, and brought White Wolf back earlier this year and White Wolf is back in charge of both licensing and publishing. (I suspect they also have in-house development, but it’s not super clear.)
I’m not 100% clear on what you’re getting at in your final paragraph, but Werewolf W5 came out in 2023, and there have been numerous non-vampire World of Darkness video games released during the Paradox era, including 2020’s Werewolf: The Apocalypse — Heart of the Forest.
As for Changeling, after doing Vampire: The Masquerade, Hunter: The Reckoning, and Werewolf: The Apocalypse, the lead designer at White Wolf has said their next likely release will be a 5th edition Mage: The Ascension, but he also hinted at Changeling: The Dreaming, so it’s not unreasonably likely that that will get a 5th edition release some time in the next decade. 2018 for VtM, HtR in 2022, WtA in 2023, I’d think worst case 2027 for Mage, 2031/32 for Changeling, unless they stumble across problems that force it to be cancelled.
My comment about werewolf and changeling was about video games, not TTRPGs.
Yeah fair enough. As I said, there was at least one Werewolf game released kinda recently. It doesn’t seem to have had a brilliant reception, but it does exist. They also did release a Wraith game not too long ago, so they’re obviously not afraid to reach into the more niche parts of the world. Changeling may be possible at some point.